Character level titles

[Mod.]

Anyone have a list of the titles for each level?

[silverkitty]

There are titles by initial skill selection (list here viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4083&start=0 ) but they do not change as you level up.

[Mod.]

I am aware of that, I am just looking for the titles displayed next to your character's level in parenthesis.

[IJBall]

I think Mod. means:

Level 1 = Initiate
Level 2 = Greenhorn (that may be Book I only!)
Etc.

The answer is, no, such a list, for either Book I or Book II, does not yet exist, AFAICT.
But I wish it did!

If someone has xolotl's character editor, it should be possible to come up with that "Level Title" list pretty quick though!

[silverkitty]

Oh, those.
A strings of the .exe file reveals:

Sanctus Incarnate
Sanctus Zedus
Sanctus Omni
Sanctus Alma
Sanctus Initiate
Champion Maximus
Champion Elite
Champion
Supreme Archmaster
Archmaster
Grandmaster
Master
Specialist
Expert Authority
Expert
Adept Authority
Adept
Headmaster Journeyman
Senior Journeyman
Journeyman
Senior Artisan
Artisan
Seasoned Yeoman
Yeoman
Senior Apprentice
Apprentice
Initiate
Neophyte
Greenhorn
Layman

[xolotl]

Heh, beat me to it. It's almost a shame to have those higher-level ones spoiled in here! Kind of an awesome treat for someone who takes the time to do 'em.

But whatever, with the XP values required:

Code: Select all

Level   XP      Name
-----   ------- -----
1       0       Layman
2       1000    Greenhorn
3       2000    Neophyte
4       3500    Initiate
5       5000    Apprentice
6       7000    Senior Apprentice
7       10000   Yeoman
8       14000   Seasoned Yeoman
9       19000   Artisan
10      25000   Senior Artisan
11      32000   Journeyman
12      40000   Senior Journeyman
13      50000   Headmaster Journeyman
14      60000   Adept
15      70000   Adept Authority
16      80000   Expert
17      100000  Expert Authority
18      120000  Specialist
19      140000  Master
20      160000  Grandmaster
21      180000  Archmaster
22      200000  Supreme Archmaster
23      230000  Champion
24      260000  Champion Elite
25      290000  Champion Maximus
26      320000  Sanctus Initiate
27      350000  Sanctus Alma
28      400000  Sanctus Omni
29      450000  Sanctus Zedus
30      500000  Sanctus Incarnate
31      9999999 ? - XP capped at 699999

[IJBall]

Heh, beat me to it. It's almost a shame to have those higher-level ones spoiled in here! Kind of an awesome treat for someone who takes the time to do 'em.

But whatever, with the XP values required:

Hey, xolotl - can you check Book I with your editor as well, and see if there are any differences?
(And, if there are, can you post a similar list over in the Book I forum?)

Thanks!

[xolotl]

Hey, xolotl - can you check Book I with your editor as well, and see if there are any differences?
(And, if there are, can you post a similar list over in the Book I forum?)

Heh, sure, I'll take a look, probably tomorrow. Looks like Book 1 doesn't support the things I'd need to do it the Easy Way, like I did for Book 2:

XPerator 5000

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Rather easier than having to re-load for every level. :)

[xolotl]

Okay, I lied; I did it tonight. See over here.

Very few differences, and nothing shocking. Book 1 levels end after Level 21, so the crazy-cool-sounding (and basically unreachable) levels in Book 2 don't exist there. Most of the levels are harder to get to in Book 1, but it evens out at level 17 (though the titles are offset by 1, at that point).

I find the "Specialist" title rather interesting, actually, given that by that stage in the game, your character is much more likely to have a broader skillset than in the beginning. It's usually in that stage of the game that I feel comfortable enough with my primary stats to start branching out. Though I suppose by that point your primary stat(s) should be nice and high, so I'm just splitting hairs there.

[Mod.]

How did you make that . I thought you only made a map editor for Book 1? (which I never tried)

[xolotl]

How did you make that :) . I thought you only made a map editor for Book 1? (which I never tried)

I've got a map editor for Book 2 mostly working which I haven't released yet (though it's not seen much actual testing yet) - it looks like BW and I have come to an agreement about me being able to release it, so you can expect it eventually. It'll be at least a few weeks, though; there's an awful lot going on in Real Life at the moment.

[Evnissyen]

You know... I was just sitting here wondering... do our characters really go all the way up to level 30?

Xolotl: I love your XPerator... it looks like a kind of weird washing machine, or a really primitive computer.

Remember those old sci-fi movies where they had these huge, room-sized computers that could only think by flashing really huge bulbs and making loud noises, and could only communicate by speaking in monotones? This was their vision of the future.

What the hell were they thinking?

Star Trek (the original), was, it seems to me, maybe the most intuitive sci-fi program that I can immediately think of (notwithstanding stupid things like characters flying across rooms when the ship got hit) -- those compact phasers (the updated ones that appeared later on) were quite nice and realistic looking, as far as how technology might've seemed likely to advance hand-held weapons . . . and their communicators which looked an awful lot like cellphones do now . . . much more accurate predictions of how things would be like in the future than other programs or movies, it seems to me . . . at least among the ones I've seen.

I remember that needle-less injector thing, too. Couldn't figure out how it was supposed to have worked, but: remembering these reminds me an awful lot of our modern syringes whose needle only appears when you make the injection.

I wonder: Did the show really last for five seasons? Does anyone know? Is there a good reason the show stated this from the beginning, that it would be on for just 5 years?

If Dr. Who had done that: we'd be stuck with that guy who looked like Moe from the Three Stooges. No John Pertwee, no Tom Baker. (Do I sound like a geek, now? I absolutely loved that show when I was a kid -- but generally only the episodes that featured the two actors mentioned above, they were my favorites. From then on the actors sort of descended in likability and depth. (That short guy with the umbrella was plain annoying. Too pretentious.) Anyway, I remember coming home from school and the first thing I'd do was turn on the TV to watch Dr. Who. Then, I guess the owners of the show decided to hike up the price so our local PBS couldn't afford to show it any longer, grrr... )

I was pissed. I was hooked on that show, I was addicted, and they just took it off the air. No more mile-long scarf, no more K9, no more daleks shouting "Exterminate! Exterminate!"

Way to disappoint a kid, England.

[silverkitty]

I wonder: Did the show really last for five seasons? Does anyone know? Is there a good reason the show stated this from the beginning, that it would be on for just 5 years?

Well, you could look up the show on imdb.com, but I know this one off the top of my head: It was canceled after two seasons. Picked up for a third because of a letter writing campaign (I think it might be historically significant for that as a first(*)) and canceled again after the third season. So 3 seasons total. The original cast also voiced the characters for the one season of the animated Star Trek series.

As for the "five year mission," I'm sure if the show had had better ratings and they needed a 6th or so season, they would have started season 6 mentioning that the Enterprise had been in dry dock for a refit for a few months and was ready to start its next five year mission - it wasn't planned obsolescence but just flavor text. I suspect it was just another parallel to naval operations - other parallels being the way the ship flew and turned (and responded to being hit), how the engines produced the power (rather than drain power from generators), how they had torpedoes (complete with torpedo room where people loaded them into tubes), how the ranks were set up (including specific duties and privileges reserved for the captain), and even some of the ways people spoke to each other in an official capacity. It would have had a very different feel if they based it on the Air Force instead of the Navy - probably in ways that would have made it feel weird to the audience.

And, yes, it's strange how they could think so far ahead on so many things, but never get computers right. All of science fiction universally dropped the ball on the direction computer science was going (until the 80s) - even when they had androids and such, they somehow never "got" that that meant tiny computers driving them (they'd either invent something else to serve as brains specifically and only for androids and somehow unable to act as computers otherwise, or they'd establish the androids were controlled by monstrous mainframes which piloted the androids via radio or something). And no one realized that computers would invade every appliance.

(*) the show IS historically significant as a first for having TV's first interracial kiss

[Evnissyen]

Well, you could look up the show on imdb.com, but I know this one off the top of my head: It was canceled after two seasons. Picked up for a third because of a letter writing campaign (I think it might be historically significant for that as a first(*)) and canceled again after the third season. So 3 seasons total.

Yeah... I'm lazy that way, I tend not to do the normal thing and look things up on IMDb or Wiki... but, interesting... I didn't know that.

You're proving pretty useful, man.

As for the "five year mission," I'm sure if the show had had better ratings and they needed a 6th or so season, they would have started season 6 mentioning that the Enterprise had been in dry dock for a refit for a few months and was ready to start its next five year mission

True enough, it would've been simple and completely operable, no explanation needed.

It would have had a very different feel if they based it on the Air Force instead of the Navy - probably in ways that would have made it feel weird to the audience.

Yeah, I never actually thought about that very much, I guess I just sort of figured: space ship = ship = boat = navy . . . and that space was much more like the open sea than an open sky. Totally ignoring that NASA stands for National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

(*) the show IS historically significant as a first for having TV's first interracial kiss

You mean interspecies, of course, right? Although strangely they all seemed to look almost human.

And... "What is this... 'kiss'?"

Silly, silly, silly.

But... that was the 60's, I guess. I guess maybe people were different, back then?

I've noticed that, in the 60's, sometimes the world tended to become bathed in bold colors of purple and orange . . . sort of randomly. And sometimes really big rocks became extraordinarily light, as if they were made of styrofoam.

Must've been an interesting time.

[Dragonlady]

I wonder: Did the show really last for five seasons? Does anyone know? Is there a good reason the show stated this from the beginning, that it would be on for just 5 years?

Well, you could look up the show on imdb.com, but I know this one off the top of my head: It was canceled after two seasons. Picked up for a third because of a letter writing campaign (I think it might be historically significant for that as a first(*)) and canceled again after the third season. So 3 seasons total. The original cast also voiced the characters for the one season of the animated Star Trek series.

My husband and I were among those writing protest letters. I was so happy they renewed it and then disappointed it wasn't continued. It was a big pleasure for us to come home from work on the day it was on and have dinner in front of the tv in our first house. We'd both gotten so sick of sci-fi on tv before ST came on. "Danger! Danger Will Robinson! Danger!" barf!